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Zeitgeist.

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Welcome back.

SUMANOVA has begun. The summer of mixed emotions is dead and buried, and RSD is about to pop a can of spinach before growing beyond recognition.

I’ll be in the thick of things. Ryan (www.ryanforreal.com) will play an integral part along with the stars of Tyler, Jeffy, Tim, Papa(!), Ozzie and Nathan.

In recent times you have seen longer posts from me. These are my first tentative efforts to expand on the established knowledge in the community. Many more works of similar length and profundity are on the brink of being published.

RSD: On the front line of the ongoing war against social conditioning.

I have a thirty hour flight back to Australia that I’m about to board, but I want to leave you with something to chew on.

I found out about this from a jaded American backpacker on a hiatus from his homeland. I found it to be just as profound as The Blueprint.

It centers around social conditioning, the battle of self esteem and ego, and the power of now.

Be warned: it’s very controversial.

I haven’t formed a definitive opinion about this yet, as I don’t think I have any basis of empirical evidence to support one stance or another. I’m well aware of sensationalist journalism and presentation… but, this will keep you thinking for days on end.

Grab some popcorn and get comfortable.

Zeitgeist.

Discussion in the comment box below. I’m interested in people’s opinions of this and just how accurate or sensationalist it really is.

Alexander~


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Occam

Mas Update-o’s Por Favor!

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MantlePicture

I was with it until the 9-11 bullshit. It’s one thing to question authority and seek the truth. But it’s another thing to want a conspiracy so bad that you ignore all scientific evidence to the contrary. All the stuff about controlled demolition is easily debunked. Anyone who thinks it was anything but a couple airplanes flying into the building simply WANTS that to be the case, and is ignoring science.

To anyone who believes this myth, I recommend this site: http://www.loosechangeguide.com/

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MantlePicture

Hmm, after finishing this, I googled “zeitgeist debunk” and came up with this: http://www.conspiracyscience.com/articles/zeitgeist/

Apparently it’s mostly bullshit. I guess it’s just human nature to want there to be more to the story than there really is. It was entertaining at least.

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James!

ALEX!
We’re dying over here. Post time is now!

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olio

That was so not “Woooo”

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Devin Pool

Just finished watching it. Completely right about FALSE religion. But there is a true religion out there. The funny thing about that is they have been telling people about what the last hour of that documentary talks about for YEARS…. But very few have listened… In fact, the world government and it’s ultimate goal of identifying everybody with a chip is actually fortolled in the book of revelation… Ironic?

I would tell you all the name of that true religion I’m talking about, but you probably already know it if you’ve been responsible enough to do your own research….

Only one way to tell if there is a god or not… CALL OUT every single god you’ve ever heard of BY NAME… The only way the true god will make himself known is if you SPECIFICALLY use his name in prayer (because ALL god’s demand to be approached through prayer)… If you’ve prayed to each god BY NAME to make her or himself known and you get NO RESPONSE, then you’ve proven there is NO GOD… But if you DO get a response, then you better take quick action before it’s too late…

Enough said

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HANK

I’m well aware of the campaign to “debunk” zeit geist part 1. I subscribe to the ideas provided, and agree that it was probably unnecessary to be addressed in the film. Although the part one presentation was done poorly, does that mean the underlying ideas incorrect?

The point of part one is that Christianity was created as a control mechanism. Perhaps the evidence provided was inaccurate, or hard to interpret, I don’t think that anyone can deny the harm that our major religions have caused in our world, past and present. Almost every war has some religious belief as the primary motive.

Look at how the Romans used Christianity as an excuse to invaid other countries. They then “reformed them” and ensured that Christianity was the mainstream religious belief.

Then came the dark ages. You’re well aware of what happened during these times. The pain and suffering inflicted onto others just because their religious beliefs differed from that of Europe.

This goes on still today. America is supposed based on a Christian foundation. However America has not stopped imposing its will on countries around the world for the past 50 years, without rest. How can a country that truly believes in the Ten Commandments and the “Christian” way of life, cause so much pain to others? How can they have the corruption in massive corporations that we see today? With all the excessive wealth in America how can there still be children starving?

The illusion of Christianity is there to make others feel righteous. Christianity is the most popular religion in the world. However you show me one single person that has lived an entirely pure life. Pure thoughts, pure actions. This person does not exist.

Evidence that Zeitgeist propose, as well as the Christian followers that appose Zeitgeist, base all there beliefs on research done by professionals that have tried their hardest to uncover the truth about things that happened 2000+ years ago. The majority of it is very subjective and was interpreted by the researcher. I am aware that Christianity is a control mechanism just by the fact that there are no true Christians in this world (none that I’ve met anyways) and that’s why I do not form any strong opinions as to the validity of the evidence provided in ZG part 1. However I do know the underlying message is true by my own convictions.

The people trying to debunk ZG pt 1 are attempting to do this as it is seen as an opportunity to “prove someone wrong” or they see it as a threat to their identity. Just looking at Christianity’s history it is impossible to deny the harm main stream religion has done to our planet. Regardless of the Egyptology used in ZG was fact or not.

Does ZG lose its credibility because of the information provided in part 1? As mentioned above both sides of these arguments are very subjective. VERY SUBJECTIVE…..There were no video recordings or signed documents to be used as evidence as in part 2/3. That is why part 2/3 is not being attacked the way part one is. My point is I am aware of the debunkers arguments and I respect their opinion. I also NEVER believe anything I hear until I believe that it makes sense. Is Zeit Geist bullshit? After viewing the film I have done hundreds of hours of research especially into part 2/3, and regardless of whether you or anybody else believes in ZG 1, part 2&3 are 100% accurate.

Have you ever in your life quoted something as fact and it turns out to be false? Everyone has. Does that mean that anything you state cannot be trusted or believed as true? That’s not the case at all. The fact that ZG part 1, the part evidence is going back 2000+ years is the only part being attacked as false means nothing. Attack the footage of the buildings going down on 9/11 or the corrupt monetary system. Debunk something with accurate and objective evidence. People who believe part one is inaccurate so it cannot be trusted, is an easy way out for weak individuals who are incapable of critical thinking. The way our leaders are running our world is wrong. To pull the blanket over your own eyes, and deny your own responsibility for what is happening is weak.

I know what to believe because I am realistic, and I don’t just believe the church is great because I was told to believe it is.

http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com/zeitgeist.html

As far as the rest of the documentary goes it is factual from my research. The absolute best website you will find at debunking ZG beliefs about 9/11 is:

http://www.debunking911.com/

This is a very convincing website with strong arguments. If you take personal responsibility you will find holes in every single argument the debunkers provide for 9/11. They will use opinions, simulations arguments that appear to be complete when in fact they are not.

Some great documentaries about what is happening in our world:

9/11:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-3719259008768610598&ei=ntbbSIbIE6C4-wHe29ylCw&q=loose+change&hl=en

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-3969310749489496889&ei=ztbbSMS3FYGE_AGD3sSjCw&q=9%2F11+ripple+effect&hl=en

Monetary system:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7065177340464808778&ei=BNfbSIGZD4T0-gGSy4yiCw&q=monopoly+men&hl=en

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279&ei=ItfbSNaZF4fA-wGVqJGlCw&q=money+as+debt&hl=en

Do not just listen to what one person says and accept that as truth, as this is being gullible. Also do not deny something without fully understanding it as this is being ignorant. Take the middle ground and challenge everything you are told from everybody (Including me of course). On issues’ as large as these you must do as much research as you possibly can and form an opinion once you understand it fully for yourself.

You can make a difference in our world by just being aware. I thought it was BS at first too, and subscribed to the debunkers theories. There is no need too. The debunkers are scared that there life and the world will change if these ideas are true. Denying how our world leaders are controlling us just because what we are doing is working at the moment is like a heroin addict continuing to use drugs because it is easier than taking responsibility for his problems. Inevitably he will have to take care of these problems. Just the longer he waits the harder it gets. That is how these issues are being treated by the debunkers.

Keep an open mind. Do not accept people’s opinions or points of views unless they were directly involved in these situations and have no interest in the outcome. Spend a little time to watch the documentaries I listed as they are very objective and are entertaining as well.

Here is a short 2 minute clip relating to the 9/11 controlled demolitions.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=3898962504721899003&ei=yufbSLK8F4_o-AHi4aSiCw&q=orange&hl=en

Remember that the conspiracy theory that 19 guys snuck onto planes and used box cutters to take down three towers and damage the pentagon is far more perposterous than the conspiracy proposed by zeitgeist.

Keep an open mind, and enjoy

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Dan Rizzo

Lets get out the vote for mayor of Revere. Vote early and vote often!

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Pieter

To anyone that is really seeking the truth I suggest listening to William Cooper http://www.ukginger.net/mystery-babylon.php. He has forty hour+ documentary audio books that explains and references everything pretty damn accurately. The problem with this is that this knowledge can cause pain. The series is called Mystery Babylon. Review it before judging it or your judgement is irrelevant. To any man that questions the 911 conspiracy please google tower 7 and explain that to me because any official answer for tower 7 is pure BS. Tower 7 is the nail in the coffin.

PS After you learned the truth don’t let it stop you enjoying life and walk around paranoid. Life is a great game

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